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		<title>Plantinga&#8217;s Naturalism Defeater</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 22:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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[W]ay back in the distant past of 2010 Justin Brierly over at his show 'Unbelievable?' moderated a discussion between philosophers Stephen Law and Alvin Plantinga. The topic of debate was Plantinga's infamous argument that the conjunction of naturalism and evolution renders cognitive reliability improbable. The conjunction is therefore supposedly a defeater against believing in the truth of beliefs produced by our cognition; including the belief in naturalism and evolution. Naturalism, says Plantinga, thereby undermines itself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="dropcap">W</span>ay back in the distant past of 2010 Justin Brierly over at his show &#8216;<a href="http://www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable?" target="_blank">Unbelievable?</a>&#8216; moderated a discussion between philosophers Stephen Law and Alvin Plantinga. The topic of debate was Plantinga&#8217;s infamous argument that the conjunction of naturalism and evolution renders cognitive reliability improbable. The conjunction is therefore supposedly a defeater against believing in the truth of beliefs produced by our cognition; including the belief in naturalism and evolution. Naturalism, says Plantinga, thereby undermines itself.</p>
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<p>The discussion is interesting and well worth a listen. Although I think both sides could have made a stronger case. The moderation was mostly fair. However, I couldn&#8217;t help my bemusement that Plantinga was consistently <em>&#8216;Plantinga; one of the world&#8217;s greatest philosophers of religion etc. ad infinitum</em>&#8216; while Stephen Law had to make do with being just plain old &#8216;<em>Stephen Law</em>.&#8217; I mean, sure, what do I know? Perhaps Plantinga just <em>has</em> these Übermensch qualifications to rival even <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_stig" target="_blank">The Stig</a> while poor Law is inexorably left behind in the dust of mediocrity. But it did become increasingly comical in iteration as the show progressed.</p>
<p>The first part of the show was naturally dedicated to<span id="more-1368"></span> Plantinga explaining his argument. I shan&#8217;t explain it better than I already have. It&#8217;s a simple enough idea, and anyone with an urge for detail can listen to the show or read more about it online. The next part of the show was dedicated to Law&#8217;s questions, worries, and objections. Law &#8211; who by the way is currently relevant by having taken William Lane Craig up on his <a href="http://stephenlaw.blogspot.com/2011/10/william-lane-craig-vs-me-october-18th.html" target="_blank">debating challange</a> &#8211; started things off by questioning whether the probability of naturalistically evolved reliable cognition is truly as low as Plantinga thinks it is. It is entirely the right question to ask. Unfortunately, however, it led to an impasse very fast. Neither man was able to give any particularly persuasive arguments for their preferred probability assessments.</p>
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<p>On agreeing to move on, Law raised an issue, which could easily have been of particular relevance. I say &#8216;could have been&#8217; because I feel Law dropped the ball somewhat. His worry was that even if we grant Plantinga his argument, it might just as equally lead to a defeater for theism as for naturalism. Plantinga&#8217;s theism entails an omnipotent divine creator with a desire to bestow upon us cognitive reliability. However, says Law, if our cognition then leads us to the conclusion that there is no such omnipotent divine creator, then we land ourselves yet again in murky waters. Unfortunately his chosen cognitive method of arriving at a no-God conclusion is the classic <a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/evil/" target="_blank">problem of evil</a>, which Plantinga doesn&#8217;t find very persuasive anyway. I don&#8217;t necessarily find it as unpersuasive as Plantinga must, but I think it brings us somewhat far afield from the topic at hand. At the very least I think Law missed an excellent opportunity to bring Plantinga to task with a problem Plantinga seems to have created for himself.</p>
<p>The classic problem of evil is (roughly) that there seems to be an inconsistency between our actual world (it has evil/suffering) and the kind of world we should expect given an omnipotent, omniscient, and omni-benevolent creator. We can easily modify this argument to bring it closer to Plantinga&#8217;s home. There seems to be an inconsistency between our actual world, in that our cognition is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases" target="_blank">massively and systematically unreliable</a>, and the world we should expect given an omnipotent creator with a preference for cognitive reliability. We might call this &#8216;the problem of bias.&#8217; I.e. whereas the problem of evil asked &#8220;If God has the ability, knowledge, and desire to prevent evil, whence then evil?&#8221; our modified version much more modestly asks &#8220;If God has the ability and desire to make humans cognitively reliable, why aren&#8217;t we?&#8221; This problem is far less easily brushed off by Plantinga than the classic problem of evil. (I should note that according to Wikipedia both Fitelson and Sober, and Ramsey have mentioned a similar problem for Plantinga. I haven&#8217;t read their papers, though, so I&#8217;m not in any way trying to do them justice.)</p>
<p>As a matter of interest I mentioned Plantinga&#8217;s argument to <a title="What Behaviour" href="https://whatbehaviour.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">my biologist girlfriend.</a> She scoffed at the argument and suggested the &#8211; to her obvious, but to me intriguing &#8211; solution that since Plantinga&#8217;s examples of adaptively beneficial yet ultimately false beliefs are highly circumstantial, it would probably be much more cost-efficient for our brains to have true beliefs. Sort of like our brain&#8217;s ability to learn chess by the simple rules of how each piece moves contrasted with our brain&#8217;s inability to learn chess by memorising each and every possible <a href="http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Chess.html" target="_blank">legal chess position</a> by rote memory. (My example, not hers.)</p>
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		<title>Let&#8217;s Flog the Anthropic Mare!</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[I] just found this magnificent case of bad philosophy on Youtube. (Yes, I know! Who would've thunk it, eh?) While I would flatter myself unjustly were I to fancy myself a philosophical equivalent of the Bad Astronomer, (I wish!) my website is hardly about debunking bad philosophy. However, it is a guilty pleasure of mine because it gives me something to talk about. Especially when it's a topic I've written about before.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="dropcap">I</span> just found this magnificent case of bad philosophy on Youtube. (Yes, I know! Who would&#8217;ve thunk it, eh?) While I would flatter myself unjustly were I to fancy myself a philosophical equivalent of the <a title="Bad Astronomy" href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/" target="_blank">Bad Astronomer</a>, (I wish!) my website is hardly about debunking bad philosophy. However, it <em>is </em>a guilty pleasure of mine because it gives me something to talk about. Especially when it&#8217;s a topic I&#8217;ve written about <a title="Puddles, Black Holes, &amp; Fungi" href="http://sketchsepahi.com/blog/archives/99" target="_blank">before</a>.</p>
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<p title="John Ankerberg">I have no idea<span id="more-1330"></span> who these people are and I&#8217;m too lazy to research this in-depth. So pardon me if I judge them solely by the merits of this short conversation. The man doing most of the talking (hereafter &#8216;The Gambler&#8217;) seems intelligent enough as apologists go. Unfortunately he is not doing a particularly good job explaining himself. If you find this video hard to follow, no worries. I did too. Just blame The Gambler. <a title="John Ankerberg" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ankerberg" target="_blank">John Ankerberg</a>, the host, isn&#8217;t doing much to improve matters either. He clearly has completely the wrong idea about the topic being discussed and The Gambler is doing nothing to correct him. Quite the comical farce.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s start with some of the misconceptions. As I understand The Gambler he&#8217;s talking about the fine-tuning argument for the existence of God. The argument deals with the well-known aspect of the universal constants (certain fixed quantities partly governing our universe&#8217;s behaviour) that had some of them been altered ever so slightly, then life as we know it could not have existed. To use a popular analogy, our universe is like a machine with a bunch of dials, many of which seem carefully tuned to &#8220;life.&#8221;</p>
<p>This concept is hopefully understandable even without getting into too much detail. We can leave aside what those constants are and why fiddling around with them would turn off &#8220;life mode.&#8221; In any case, it has nothing whatsoever to do with whether the age of the universe is sufficient time for &#8220;evolution to occur.&#8221; I&#8217;m not even sure what Ankerberg means by this. Given large enough reproduction rates any amount of time is sufficient for evolution to occur. Not to mention that evolution is entirely irrelevant. The driving force of fine-tuning arguments is usually the supposed improbability of life; not its diversity. Why would the laws of physics allow the existence of life <em>at all</em>, when they could have failed to do so even more easily?</p>
<p>The other main misconception is that the idea of multiple universes arises solely from the atheist&#8217;s discomfort with the improbability of life. Many philosophers, theoretical physicists, and quite a few authors have postulated multiple universes for all sorts of reasons. By all means let&#8217;s concede &#8211; as I did <a title="Puddles, Black Holes, &amp; Fungi" href="http://sketchsepahi.com/blog/archives/99" target="_blank">before</a> &#8211; that:</p>
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<p title="John Ankerberg">Accepting the actual existence of many worlds in order to escape the existence of God seems arbitrarily discriminatory</p>
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<p title="John Ankerberg">This doesn&#8217;t in any way detract from the fact, that if you have independent reasons for believing in multiple universes (e.g. because they allow you to make sense of <a title="Modal Realism" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modal_realism" target="_blank">modality</a> or because they allow you to retain determinism in <a title="Many Worlds Interpretation" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many_worlds_theory" target="_blank">quantum physics</a>) then it dissolves the mystery of &#8220;fine-tuning&#8221; quite neatly into a <a class="zem_slink" title="Anthropic principle" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropic_principle" rel="wikipedia">weak anthropic principle</a> at no added cost. That is to say, if you <em>already</em> believe we live in a multiverse for reasons nothing to do with theism/atheism, then you get to shrug your shoulders at fine-tuning and say &#8220;Well, I suppose there <em>had</em> to be life as we know it in <em>one</em> of them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which leads us neatly into The Gambler&#8217;s critique of atheists, that we commit the <a title="The Gambler's Fallacy" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy" target="_blank">Gambler&#8217;s fallacy</a>. He likens it to tossing a coin repeatedly. The coin lands with &#8216;heads&#8217; up improbably often. Atheists allegedly then conclude that the coin therefore must have been tossed prior to the &#8216;head&#8217; run. The Gambler considers this conclusion fallacious because the coin might be double-headed. He is right in his assessment that what he describes is an example of Gambler&#8217;s fallacy. He is wrong about the dialectic.</p>
<p>This is closer to how the real dialectic goes:<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">Theist</span>: &#8220;The universe is remarkably structured. If you fiddled around with some of its constants, life couldn&#8217;t exist.&#8221;<br />
<span style="color: #ff0000;">Atheist</span>: &#8220;Surely you mean &#8216;life as we know it&#8217; couldn&#8217;t exist? Maybe other possible &#8220;tunings&#8221; could support other kinds of life?&#8221;<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">T</span>: &#8220;Alright, but that&#8217;s just speculation.&#8221;<br />
<span style="color: #ff0000;">A</span>: &#8220;Sure. So the universe is unlikely. What&#8217;s your point?&#8221;<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">T</span>: &#8220;So it must have been purposely designed! God obviously wanted life and therefore created a life-supporting universe!&#8221;<br />
<span style="color: #ff0000;">A</span>: &#8220;She might have done a <a title="Stupid Design" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4238NN8HMgQ" target="_blank">better job</a>&#8230;&#8221;<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">T</span>: &#8220;Excuse me?&#8221;<br />
<span style="color: #ff0000;">A</span>: &#8220;Never mind. But hold on. Surely your premise, that the universe is improbably life-supporting, doesn&#8217;t support your conclusion that therefore a life-desiring creator exists.&#8221;<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">T</span>: &#8220;How so?&#8221;<br />
<span style="color: #ff0000;">A</span>: &#8220;Well, perhaps it&#8217;s just a massive coincidence or&#8230;&#8221;<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">T</span>: &#8220;Yeah right.&#8221;<br />
<span style="color: #ff0000;">A</span>: &#8220;Oh, I agree it probably isn&#8217;t. However, it&#8217;s still not ruled out by your premise and so invalidates your argument. Or maybe there are multiple universes.&#8221;<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">T</span>: &#8220;Aha! That&#8217;s the Gambler&#8217;s fallacy!&#8221;<br />
<span style="color: #ff0000;">A</span>: &#8220;It would be if I had tried to argue that there are, in fact, such universes based on nothing but the premise that it&#8217;s improbable that our universe should support life. However, I&#8217;m not the one arguing for a multiverse, you&#8217;re the one arguing for God.<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">T</span>: &#8220;But surely God is more parsimonious!&#8221;<br />
<span style="color: #ff0000;">A</span>: &#8220;Perhaps. But if you think I would have committed a fallacy in arguing for a multiverse, because the conclusion doesn&#8217;t deductively follow from our agreed premise, then surely you must admit that your God-conclusion is equally fallacious.&#8221;<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">T</span>: &#8220;But concluding that a coin, which always lands heads up is double-headed isn&#8217;t a Gambler&#8217;s fallacy.&#8221;<br />
<span style="color: #ff0000;">A</span>: &#8220;No, it isn&#8217;t. It is, however, an argument from ignorance. At least until you&#8217;ve ruled out other possible explanations for your improbable tosses. You evidently believe in God. Suppose God intervened in the coin tosses?&#8221;<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">T</span>: &#8220;But the double-headed coin is analogous to God. What is &#8216;God&#8217; then analogous to?&#8221;<br />
<span style="color: #ff0000;">A</span>: &#8220;I honestly don&#8217;t know. Some other supernatural explanation for the universe being the way it is? Maybe humans will discover magical means to time-travel, go back in time, and design the universe.&#8221;<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">T</span>: &#8220;That sounds perfectly ridiculous.&#8221;<br />
<span style="color: #ff0000;">A</span>: &#8220;Not more so than your God does to me&#8230;&#8221;<br />
<span style="color: #0000ff;">T</span>: &#8220;&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Interview with Robin LePoidevin</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 21:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[I] had a chat with the always impeccably dressed Robin LePoidevin about atheism, agnosticism, and some of his books on behalf of the Faroese Atheist Society, 'Gudloysi.' Despite the anger of the thunder-gods outside, it was both interesting and quite illuminating to take a peak into the mind of such a distinguished professor of philosophy.]]></description>
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<p><span class="dropcap">I</span> had a chat with the always impeccably dressed <a class="zem_slink" title="Robin LePoidevin" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_LePoidevin" rel="wikipedia">Robin LePoidevin</a> about atheism, agnosticism, and some of his books on behalf of the Faroese Atheist Society, &#8216;<a href="http://gudloysi.fo/" target="_blank">Gudloysi</a>.&#8217; Despite the anger of the thunder-gods outside, it was both interesting and quite illuminating to take a peak into the mind of such a distinguished professor of philosophy.</p>
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		<title>A soap opera star is a better philosopher than you</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span class="dropcap">W</span>here&#8217;s your God now, <a href="http://sketchsepahi.com/blog/archives/1088" target="_blank">William Lane Craig</a>?</p>
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		<title>What if&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 12:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...the rapture actually did happen as Harold Camping foretold but we were all left behind?

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;the rapture actually did happen as Harold Camping foretold but we were <em>all</em> left behind?</p>
<p>Although take a look at this video and tell me you wouldn&#8217;t rather be in this world than the next.</p>
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<p>Also rapture-happy Christians should <a href="http://alma-geddon.com/" target="_blank">read this website</a> before issuing their next prediction.</p>
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		<title>Happy Draw Mohammed Day Sequel!</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2011 05:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[T]here's nothing much to say to this that I haven't already said last year. Although I must say that oddly enough almost only Christians took offence when I last drew Mohammed. If only they knew how much I grow to care about my cartoon characters, I can't imagine they would take offence. Mohammed is just downright cuddly, really.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="aligncenter" title="Mohammed " src="http://www.sketchsepahi.com/images/mohammed2011.png" alt="Mohammed" width="500" height="351" /><span class="dropcap">T</span>here&#8217;s nothing much to say to this <a href="http://sketchsepahi.com/blog/archives/502" target="_blank">that I haven&#8217;t already said last year</a>. Although I must say that oddly enough almost only Christians took offence when I last drew Mohammed.</p>
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<p>As you can  see, this year&#8217;s Mohammed has had his bomb-fuse extinguished because  his anger has become diluted through the repetition of us drawing him.  Also he&#8217;d rather play video-games. What is he playing? Mortal Kombat? My  Little Pony? We&#8217;ll never know, but he seems much happier, bless him.</p>
<p>As  I was drawing him it struck me how odd it is that anyone would be  offended by my act of so doing. If only they knew how much I care about  all of my cartoon characters. I think it&#8217;s because to draw an  emotion I have to empathise with it, so Mohammed&#8217;s indignation or apathy  becomes my own to an extent. Besides, Mohammed is just downright cuddly, really.</p>
<p>Heini</p>
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<p>P.S. If anyone is interested in a thorough and passionate explanation of why it&#8217;s important to draw Mohammed, I recommend the following video by Thunderf00t:</p>
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<p>Edit: I <a href="http://friendlyatheist.com/2011/05/20/draw-muhammad-day-2-a-compilation/#comment-738108" target="_blank">was featured on Friendly Atheist</a> again this year. As last year I am very honoured to be among good company.</p>
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		<title>Talk at A-Soc on Intelligent Design</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 12:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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<p style="text-align: left;">A while back I held a little talk loosely based on my <a href="http://sketchsepahi.com/blog/archives/794" target="_blank">Intelligent Design essay</a> for the <a href="http://leeds.atheistsoc.org/" target="_blank">Leeds Atheist Society</a>. I&#8217;ve had the video cluttering up my hard drive for a while but only now figured out how to convert and embed it, so there you go. The sound quality is shoddy and my accent is thick but hopefully I&#8217;m understandable.</p>
<p>If, for some unfathomable reason, you want, you can <a href="http://www.sketchsepahi.com/slides/ID-Slides201.pptx" target="_blank">download the slides from the talk here.</a></p>
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		<title>Omniscience Entails Fatalism</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2011 11:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[D]ear friend in philosophy
Thank you for your recent charming company. As you might recall from our discussion at the restaurant, I remarked glibly that omniscience entails fatalism. You, of course, disagreed with me on the grounds that God's existence is somehow atemporal. Since informal discussions over lunch, sadly cut short by your disappearance, are less than conducive to heavy philosophy, I thought this clarification in order.]]></description>
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<p><span class="dropcap">D</span>ear friend in philosophy<br />
Thank you for your recent charming company. As you might recall from our discussion at the restaurant, I remarked glibly that omniscience entails fatalism. You, of course, disagreed with me on the grounds that God&#8217;s existence is somehow atemporal. Since informal discussions over lunch, sadly cut short by your disappearance, are less than conducive to heavy philosophy, I thought this clarification in order.</p>
<p>I believe I can prove my assertion. Given a few reasonable assumptions, and a particular understanding of the concepts involved, we should be able to<span id="more-1181"></span> conclude logically from infallible omniscience that:</p>
<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s impossible for Odin to know what you&#8217;ll do and for you to do otherwise.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: left;">This is what I mean when I say &#8216;omniscience entails fatalism.&#8217; I take fatalism to mean &#8216;truth-values of propositions about future events are inalterable.&#8217; Or, more simply, there are truths about the future and the future is therefore fixed by these truths. What is true about the future stays true.</p>
<p>Now, classically <a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/omniscience/#DefOmn" target="_blank">&#8216;omniscience</a>&#8216; has been understood as &#8216;maximal and complete knowledge of all true propositions.&#8217; I should note that I&#8217;m assuming infallible omniscience. That is, not only does Odin know everything but it&#8217;s impossible for Odin to believe a falsehood. I think this a plausible assumption &#8211; <a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/omniscience/#AddFeaDivKno" target="_blank">as does van Inwagen</a>. However, if you&#8217;re unconvinced consider only the strangeness of an atemporal omniscient Odin, who could nevertheless possibly be mistaken.</p>
<h3 style="text-align: left;">Formal argument</h3>
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<td width="27" valign="top”&gt;&lt;a title=">1.</td>
<td width="118" valign="top"><a title="necessity; something is necessary if it’s impossible for it to be false">□</a> ( <a title="'Odin knows that q'">p</a> <a title="material implication; ‘if…then…’">→</a> <a title="any arbitrary future event">q</a> )</td>
<td width="260" valign="top"><a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/free-will-foreknowledge/#1" target="_blank">Def. of infallibility + omniscience.</a></td>
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<td width="27" valign="top”&gt;&lt;a title=">2.</td>
<td width="118" valign="top"><a title="necessity; something is necessary if it’s impossible for it to be false">□</a> ( <a title="negation; ‘it’s false that...’">⌐</a><a title="'Odin knows that q'">p</a> <a title="logical disjunction; ‘…or…’">˅</a> <a title="any arbitrary future event">q</a> )</td>
<td width="260" valign="top"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Material_conditional#Truth_table" target="_blank">Material implication</a> from 1.</td>
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<td width="27" valign="top”&gt;&lt;a title=">3.</td>
<td width="118" valign="top"><a title="necessity; something is necessary if it’s impossible for it to be false">□</a> <a title="negation; ‘it’s false that...’">⌐</a>( <a title="negation; ‘it’s false that...’">⌐</a><a title="negation; ‘it’s false that...’">⌐</a><a title="'Odin knows that q'">p</a> <a title="logical conjunction; ‘…and…’">˄</a> <a title="negation; ‘it’s false that...’">⌐</a><a title="any arbitrary future event">q</a> )</td>
<td width="260" valign="top"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Morgan%27s_laws" target="_blank">DeMorgan</a> from 2.</td>
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<td width="27" valign="top”&gt;&lt;a title=">4.</td>
<td width="118" valign="top"><a title="necessity; something is necessary if it’s impossible for it to be false">□</a> <a title="negation; ‘it’s false that...’">⌐</a>( <a title="'Odin knows that q'">p</a> <a title="logical conjunction; ‘…and…’">˄</a> <a title="negation; ‘it’s false that...’">⌐</a><a title="any arbitrary future event">q</a> )</td>
<td width="260" valign="top"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_negation" target="_blank">Double negation elimination</a> from 3.</td>
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<td width="27" valign="top”&gt;&lt;a title=">5.</td>
<td width="118" valign="top"><a title="negation; ‘it’s false that...’">⌐</a><a title="possibility; something is possible if it’s not necessary that it’s false">◊</a> <a title="negation; ‘it’s false that...’">⌐</a><a title="negation; ‘it’s false that...’">⌐</a>( <a title="'Odin knows that q'">p</a> <a title="logical conjunction; ‘…and…’">˄</a> <a title="negation; ‘it’s false that...’">⌐</a><a title="any arbitrary future event">q</a> )<strong> </strong></td>
<td width="260" valign="top"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modal_logic" target="_blank">Definition of necessity</a> from 4.</td>
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<td width="27" valign="top”&gt;&lt;a title=">6.</td>
<td width="118" valign="top"><strong><a title="conclusion; valid if its falsity leads to contradiction while the premises are true">.:</a> </strong> <a title="negation; ‘it’s false that...’">⌐</a><a title="possibility; something is possible if it’s not necessary that it’s false">◊</a> ( <a title="'Odin knows that q'">p</a> <a title="logical conjunction; ‘…and…’">˄</a> <a title="negation; ‘it’s false that...’">⌐</a><a title="any arbitrary future event">q</a> )</td>
<td width="260" valign="top"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_negation" target="_blank">Double negation elimination</a> from 5.</td>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Mouse-over the individual symbols to see what they mean. Click links to see the rules of inference used.</p>
<h3 style="text-align: left;">Informal argument</h3>
<blockquote><p>1. Necessarily, if Odin knows what you’ll do, then it’s true you’ll do it.<br />
2. Necessarily, either Odin doesn’t know what you’ll do, or you’ll do it.<br />
3. Necessarily, it’s not both the case that it&#8217;s false that Odin doesn&#8217;t know what you&#8217;ll do, and that you&#8217;ll do otherwise.<br />
4. Necessarily, it’s false that Odin knows what you’ll do, and that you&#8217;ll do otherwise.<br />
5. It’s impossible that it’s not false both that Odin knows what you’ll do and for you to do otherwise.</p>
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<p>6. Therefore, it’s impossible that Odin knows what you’ll do and for you to do otherwise.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: left;">If you clicked on any of the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy links, you&#8217;ll notice that my argument shares some commonalities with their argument. It is, however, entirely my own, and as far as I&#8217;m concerned it does more with less. Please note that I derived my conclusion from the single premise of infallible omniscience. Since the conclusion derives from a single premise, the premise and the conclusion are truth-functional equivalents. Saying that Odin infallibly knows what you&#8217;ll do, is &#8211; logically speaking &#8211; just a paraphrase of saying that it&#8217;s impossible for Odin to know what you&#8217;ll do and for you to do otherwise.</p>
<h3 style="text-align: left;">Truth Table</h3>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://sketchsepahi.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2011/05/Sannleikatabell.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1196" title="Truth Table" src="http://sketchsepahi.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2011/05/Sannleikatabell.png" alt="Truth Table" width="335" height="235" /></a>Since the two sentences have the same truth-value under every truth-value assignment, they are<a href="http://www.unc.edu/~theis/logic/TFdefs.html" target="_blank"> truth-functionally equivalent.</a></p>
<h3 style="text-align: left;">Your objection</h3>
<p>As for your objection from timelessness &#8211; i.e. Odin does not have <em>fore</em>knowledge because she is outside of time &#8211; I simply fail to see the relevance. Firstly, I&#8217;m not convinced that the act of <em>knowing</em> is coherent when applied to a &#8220;knower&#8221; outside time. Verbs imply change and change implies time. Perhaps you could have time without change, fine, but I can make nothing of  &#8216;change without time.&#8217; Unless you&#8217;ll concede Odin as an entity without agency, or unless you&#8217;re ready to posit hyper-time, then Odin cannot be outside time.</p>
<p>Secondly, even if I concede this nonsense, I still don&#8217;t see how it applies. No particular temporal location of Odin is doing any work in this matter. What&#8217;s doing the work here is that there are true propositions about the future. We could run the same argument without any reference to either Odin or any other hypothetical future-knower. We all know that propositions can change truth-value, but, again, <em>change implies time.</em> There can be no atemporal change in truth-value unless you&#8217;re partial to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presentism_%28philosophy_of_time%29" target="_blank">presentism</a> or <a href="http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=iE65ulffu2oC&amp;lpg=PA117&amp;dq=Oxford%20Studies%20in%20Metaphysics%3A%20Vol.%205%20page%203&amp;pg=PA3#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false" target="_blank">hyper-time</a>. In either case you shouldn&#8217;t also hold that there are propositional truths about future contingents.</p>
<h3>Another common objection</h3>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="aligncenter" title="The Objection From Cookie" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Choco_chip_cookie.png/800px-Choco_chip_cookie.png" alt="The Objection From Cookie" width="201" height="139" /></p>
<p>A different objection I have encountered repeatedly &#8211; in private conversation and<a href="http://www.comereason.org/phil_qstn/phi038.asp" target="_blank"> on the internet</a> &#8211; is the assertion that just because Odin knows what you&#8217;ll do, she&#8217;s not forcing you to do it. Often objectors tout this by appeal to analogy. Suppose I have a son, the analogy goes, and place before him a plate of cookies before departing the room. I then know that my son will eat the cookies. However, I haven&#8217;t in any way forced him to do so and he&#8217;s choosing to eat the cookies of his own free will.</p>
<p>This is a silly objection for several reasons. The objector is guilty of equivocating more than once. Firstly, we&#8217;re now talking of knowledge in several degrees of certainty. Nobody claims parents have infallible omniscience about their children. The father&#8217;s knowledge doesn&#8217;t amount to an infallible certainty about the future proposition &#8216;my son will eat the cookies.&#8217; The father&#8217;s knowledge is more of an educated guess. He doesn&#8217;t <em>know infallibly </em>that his son won&#8217;t drop dead before devouring any cookies, or that this isn&#8217;t the day his son finally grows a conscience. Odin, presumably, knows those things, so knows <em>unconditionally</em> what will happen. The father <em>might</em> be surprised, since he can&#8217;t account for everything. Odin has infallible knowledge of said everythings.</p>
<p>Secondly, we&#8217;re also juggling several &#8216;free will&#8217; concepts. I dislike the term altogether and avoid using it when I can. My argument can certainly do without &#8216;free will,&#8217; so there&#8217;s that. But to say a little more, it really depends on what you mean by <a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/freewill/" target="_blank">&#8216;free will</a>&#8216; and whether you&#8217;re consistent in your usage. If by &#8216;free will&#8217; you mean &#8216;the ability to do otherwise than what Odin&#8217;s future-knowledge dictates,&#8217; then you don&#8217;t have free will by my argument. If, however, you mean &#8216;the ability to act without coercion from anyone else,&#8217; then sure, you do have &#8216;free will&#8217; in light of my argument. Although I don&#8217;t see how it gets you anywhere closer to an objection.</p>
<h3>The only solution</h3>
<div id="attachment_1253" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 287px"><a href="http://sketchsepahi.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2011/05/sea-battle-constellation.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1253" title="Seabattle" src="http://sketchsepahi.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2011/05/sea-battle-constellation.jpg" alt="Seabattle" width="277" height="207" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Either there&#39;ll be a seabattle or there won&#39;t</p></div>
<p>There is a solution to a consistent coexistence between Odin&#8217;s infallible omniscience and an open future. As far as I can see it&#8217;s the only solution. We can, <a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/fatalism/#1.1" target="_blank">like Aristotle</a>, deny that propositions about the future have any truth-value. When the above-mentioned father says &#8216;my son is going to eat the cookies&#8217; what he says is neither true nor false because it hasn&#8217;t happened yet. If there simply <em>are no</em> true propositions about the future, then Odin may have infallible knowledge about all true propositions unproblomatically while still allowing you to &#8216;do otherwise.&#8217; Actually there isn&#8217;t an <em>other</em>wise since there isn&#8217;t a <em>wise</em> for it to be other to &#8211; but you get my gist. Of course, this would still mean Odin doesn&#8217;t know the future. However, it wouldn&#8217;t detract from Odin&#8217;s omniscience any more than does Odin&#8217;s lack of knowledge about the distance in miles from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duckburg" target="_blank">Duckburg</a> to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotham_city" target="_blank">Gotham City</a>.</p>
<p>I trust I have clarified my side of our disagreement. Of course, I think you now ought to agree with me. However, that&#8217;s not likely to happen since I know we&#8217;re equals in stubbornness. Though you manage to pull it off far more gracefully than I. In any case take my explanation for what you will.</p>
<p>Your friend,<br />
Heini</p>
<p>P.S. I have omitted mentioning my friend&#8217;s name for the sake of privacy. I shall leave it up to him/her whether to break anonymity.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There was once an atheist man,&#8221; a colleague of mine told me after someone outed my atheism to her. &#8220;Who fell into the ocean. And <em>then</em> he called out for Jesus.&#8221; She was a nice woman in her mid-life who had probably never met an atheist before. I could tell it shocked her profoundly that such a thing even existed &#8211; as if I had suddenly turned into a feral leprechaun before her very eyes. So I hurriedly ended my shift while politely informing her that, in the man&#8217;s stead, I would rather have called for a lifebelt.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.openclipart.org/detail/22165"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1142" title="Lifebelt" src="http://sketchsepahi.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2011/04/nicubunu_Help_red.png" alt="Lifebelt" width="101" height="101" /></a>Maybe it&#8217;s just because I&#8217;m from the Faroe Islands but, in my experience, Christians seem obsessed with falling into the ocean. Another frequently used canard is the good old &#8220;If <em>you</em> saw someone falling into the ocean and you <em>knew</em> they couldn&#8217;t swim, wouldn&#8217;t you do anything to save them?&#8221; This is usually the go-to excuse for the &#8220;tough love&#8221; of the unpleasant and dishonest kind of proselytism and of the forcible injection of religion into education and politics. A variation is the oft-repeated bridge-gambit; &#8220;If someone were about to walk onto a bridge, you knew to be unstable, wouldn&#8217;t you be justified in saving them from danger by any means?&#8221;</p>
<p>The danger is Hell, the rickety bridge is <span id="more-1097"></span>your life-style, and what&#8217;s being justified is any immoral conduct perpetrated by the believers. After all, they only want the best for you. If establishing a theocratic dictatorship or orchestrating medieval torture is all that&#8217;s keeping you out of eternal damnation, isn&#8217;t it actually the moral duty of the theist to do so?</p>
<p>This is what Ian Stewart and Jack Cohen, <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Heaven-Ian-Stewart/dp/0446611034/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1304194691&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank">in their book &#8216;Heaven,&#8217;</a> call the Querists&#8217; Fallacy:</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://sketchsepahi.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2011/04/heaven.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-1140 alignright" title="Heaven" src="http://sketchsepahi.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2011/04/heaven.jpg" alt="Heaven" width="242" height="367" /></a>&#8220;Most querists honestly believe that what they do is necessary for  the good of their victims&#8217; lifesouls. You know why. You have heard  their reasoning.&#8221; Epimenides paused for emphasis. &#8220;And you have asked  them: What if their reasoning is wrong?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;I have,&#8221; said Sam. &#8220;And I  can&#8217;t detect any flaw in their answer: `By accepting the possibility of  error, we risk our own lifesouls for the good of others. What greater  love can there be than this?&#8217; That was the answer that led me to become a  torturer myself. I tried to inflict mortal harm on Second-Best Sailor!&#8221;<br />
&#8220;You did,&#8221; said Epimenides calmly. &#8220;But nevertheless, there is a  flaw. You could not find it because you looked for it within the  querists&#8217; logic, and that was what seduced you. But the flaw lies in the  context, not in the content. Understand this, and you will never make  such a mistake again.<br />
“The Querists’ Fallacy is to pose the entire  argument within the context of their own belief system. However, if they  are wrong to torture innocents, those beliefs may also be wrong. In  particular, the belief that the querist’s own lifesoul is at risk may be  wrong. And then, what they do is based not on love but on ignorance and  superstition.”<br />
“But&#8212;are you saying that the Lifesoul-Giver doesn’t exist?”<br />
“No. Neither am I saying that it does. I am saying that it is a fallacy to make deductions on the basis of a false hypothesis.”</p></blockquote>
<p>So, theocratical believers, if your fall-into-ocean/rickety-bridge analogy is set within the context of your own belief system, what would the analogy look like if set within the context of reality? Well, for one, you <em>don&#8217;t</em> know. You don&#8217;t <em>know</em> that we&#8217;re in danger. You don&#8217;t <em>know</em> that you&#8217;re not in danger. You don&#8217;t <em>know </em>that your belief system will save us. You don&#8217;t <em>know </em>that we can&#8217;t swim or that the bridge is unstable. You don&#8217;t know&#8230;anything. You believe. You believe that if you don&#8217;t believe, you&#8217;ll go to Hell. You believe this for no other reason than your fear of going to Hell.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.openclipart.org/detail/28013"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1144" title="Bridge" src="http://sketchsepahi.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2011/04/Anonymous_Roadsign_Humpback.png" alt="Bridge" width="141" height="123" /></a>We&#8217;re all standing by a seemingly bottomless chasm. Spanning over this chasm are countless bridges, only one of which is stable and will bring you to the other side. All of the other bridges, no matter how sturdy they look, are unstable and will collapse under the weight of a person. Now, you might be willing to risk your own life on one of these bridges. Are you truly willing to risk someone else&#8217;s life on your ill-founded beliefs? Are you presumptuous enough to claim, without a shadow of doubt, that you know better than everyone else? You know better despite the fact that neither you nor anyone else have ever been to the other side or met anyone who has? Despite the fact, that all of us have equal access to the relevant facts? Do you have a moral obligation to force people onto your bridge against their will? Or do you have a moral obligation to let everyone make their own decision?</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t even know that the chasm is bottomless. Maybe there are trampolines and amazing sweets down there.</p>
<p>This is why &#8216;<em>what would it take for you to change your mind?</em>&#8216; is such an important question. If you don&#8217;t know, or if you can&#8217;t answer it, you&#8217;re a danger to all of us; your querist logic might as well lead you to believe the ends justify the means.</p>
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		<title>Theists, stop being ignorant about meta-ethics!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recently watched the Notre Dame debate between Sam Harris and William Lane Craig entitled 'Is Good from God?' I can refute everything Craig said in just three words:]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><span class="dropcap">I</span> recently watched the Notre Dame debate between Sam Harris and William Lane Craig entitled &#8216;Is Good from God?&#8217; I can refute everything Craig said in just three words:</p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><a class="zem_slink" title="Ideal observer theory" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_observer_theory">Ideal Observer Theory</a></h3>
<p>Look, theists, if you want to argue that Divine Command Theory farts rainbows and brings orgasms to needy little children, knock yourselves out. But honestly, stop acting as if it were the only coherent meta-ethical theory ever devised in the history of humanity. It doesn&#8217;t make you look clever, it makes you look either ignorant or dishonest. Craig must certainly be immorally dishonest, since as a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lane_Craig" target="_blank">Research Professor of Philosophy</a> he ought to know better.</p>
<p>No, I don&#8217;t intend to defend Ideal Observer Theory over Divine Command Theory &#8211; though I&#8217;ll recommend Michael Martin&#8217;s book &#8216;<a class="zem_slink" title="Atheism, Morality, and Meaning (Prometheus Lecture Series)" rel="amazon" href="http://www.amazon.com/Atheism-Morality-Meaning-Prometheus-Lecture/dp/1573929875%3FSubscriptionId%3D0G81C5DAZ03ZR9WH9X82%26tag%3Dzemanta-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3D1573929875">Atheism, Morality, and Meaning</a>&#8216; for the interested &#8211; and Ideal Observer Theory isn&#8217;t even the only theory that fulfils Craig&#8217;s criteria of &#8216;objectivity.&#8217; I don&#8217;t even know why we should take seriously Craig&#8217;s assertion that &#8216;If God doesn&#8217;t exist there can be no objective morality&#8217; since it basically just boils down to an argument from Craig&#8217;s personal incredulity.</p>
<p>However, my point is that philosophical integrity demands that we ought at the very least acknowledge that there <em>are</em> other positions available. We don&#8217;t have to accept them. Hell, we can argue vehemently against their veracity. But the least we can do is to not pretend that there is no opposing view; no legitimate disagreement. That&#8217;s not philosophy, that&#8217;s just plain old propaganda.</p>
<p>For shame!</p>
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